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Post by jamesst20 on Aug 30, 2020 20:45:11 GMT
Hi, Yesterday I ended up on this article on Reddit proposing a fix. I'm thinking of doing it, the reviews are extremely positive. What do you guys think? Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/gs6bal/2019_mbp_16_vrm_cooling_mod/ and the final result posted
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 30, 2020 21:49:26 GMT
Hi, Yesterday I ended up on this article on Reddit proposing a fix. I'm thinking of doing it, the reviews are extremely positive. What do you guys think? Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/gs6bal/2019_mbp_16_vrm_cooling_mod/ This is a bad idea. Putting thermal pads on the VRMs so they transfer heat to the bottom cover is idiot stuff. You are turning the bottom cover into a giant heat sync. And its going to cook the batteries and the logic board with tons of extra heat. Plus it makes the bottom cover so hot, you cant put this on our lap. And its not going to be heating up just while gaming either. For the battery's life alone, I wouldnt do this.
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Post by leangl on Aug 30, 2020 21:57:56 GMT
Only if you are planning to cool the bottom of you laptop and you should consider removing the insulating layer on your backplate which will of course void your warranty. Also be aware that because it will do some pressure it will bend a little bit which aesthetically is not gonna be pleasant and it might case some damages to your mainboard on the long run.
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Post by leangl on Aug 30, 2020 22:00:06 GMT
Hi, Yesterday I ended up on this article on Reddit proposing a fix. I'm thinking of doing it, the reviews are extremely positive. What do you guys think? Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/gs6bal/2019_mbp_16_vrm_cooling_mod/ This is a bad idea. Putting thermal pads on the VRMs so they transfer heat to the bottom cover is idiot stuff. You are turning the bottom cover into a giant heat sync. And its going to cook the batteries and the logic board with tons of extra heat. Plus it makes the bottom cover so hot, you cant put this on our lap. And its not going to be heating up just while gaming either. For the battery's life alone, I wouldnt do this. No way heat will transfer to the batteries with a lid that thin.
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Post by xzorekx on Aug 31, 2020 10:11:13 GMT
Hi, Yesterday I ended up on this article on Reddit proposing a fix. I'm thinking of doing it, the reviews are extremely positive. What do you guys think? Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/gs6bal/2019_mbp_16_vrm_cooling_mod/ This is a bad idea. Putting thermal pads on the VRMs so they transfer heat to the bottom cover is idiot stuff. You are turning the bottom cover into a giant heat sync. And its going to cook the batteries and the logic board with tons of extra heat. Plus it makes the bottom cover so hot, you cant put this on our lap. And its not going to be heating up just while gaming either. For the battery's life alone, I wouldnt do this. What about this is a bad idea? The batteries are physically on the lower base of the laptop. In fact, using the backplate as heatsink will help a ton to reduce heat on the inclosure as you are moving the heat of passive cooled componentes to the exterior. It is totally true that the backplate gets very hot on cpu intensive applications, though I’ve never, ever, been uncomfortable when doing basic stuff like surfing or watching a movie. Despite this, do not remove the insulation layer from the backplate, the pads work fairly ok with the insulator attached and you can easily remove the pads if you need to do go to an Apple store. To be honest, I’ve just seen positive stuff from doing this mod. It is easy, cheap, fans do not get incredibly loud on macOS that much, it can be used on the lap for simple stuff, and when using a cooling base with a fan, there is no throttle whatsoever. I was super worried about the battery as well, but after monitoring it, coconut does not get that much crazy after a play sesión. Before, health would jump down from 95% to 85%, recovering in a couple of cicles. Now it never does it, even after long gaming sessions. Do not worry that much.
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Post by jamesst20 on Aug 31, 2020 14:28:49 GMT
This is a bad idea. Putting thermal pads on the VRMs so they transfer heat to the bottom cover is idiot stuff. You are turning the bottom cover into a giant heat sync. And its going to cook the batteries and the logic board with tons of extra heat. Plus it makes the bottom cover so hot, you cant put this on our lap. And its not going to be heating up just while gaming either. For the battery's life alone, I wouldnt do this. What about this is a bad idea? The batteries are physically on the lower base of the laptop. In fact, using the backplate as heatsink will help a ton to reduce heat on the inclosure as you are moving the heat of passive cooled componentes to the exterior. It is totally true that the backplate gets very hot on cpu intensive applications, though I’ve never, ever, been uncomfortable when doing basic stuff like surfing or watching a movie. Despite this, do not remove the insulation layer from the backplate, the pads work fairly ok with the insulator attached and you can easily remove the pads if you need to do go to an Apple store. To be honest, I’ve just seen positive stuff from doing this mod. It is easy, cheap, fans do not get incredibly loud on macOS that much, it can be used on the lap for simple stuff, and when using a cooling base with a fan, there is no throttle whatsoever. I was super worried about the battery as well, but after monitoring it, coconut does not get that much crazy after a play sesión. Before, health would jump down from 95% to 85%, recovering in a couple of cicles. Now it never does it, even after long gaming sessions. Do not worry that much. Thanks for the feedback. When you say " Before, health would jump down from 95% to 85%, recovering in a couple of cicles.", do you mean when you first did the mod, it used to do that and now it no longer does it ? Without the mod, is the battery health also changing ?
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Post by xzorekx on Aug 31, 2020 16:09:12 GMT
What about this is a bad idea? The batteries are physically on the lower base of the laptop. In fact, using the backplate as heatsink will help a ton to reduce heat on the inclosure as you are moving the heat of passive cooled componentes to the exterior. It is totally true that the backplate gets very hot on cpu intensive applications, though I’ve never, ever, been uncomfortable when doing basic stuff like surfing or watching a movie. Despite this, do not remove the insulation layer from the backplate, the pads work fairly ok with the insulator attached and you can easily remove the pads if you need to do go to an Apple store. To be honest, I’ve just seen positive stuff from doing this mod. It is easy, cheap, fans do not get incredibly loud on macOS that much, it can be used on the lap for simple stuff, and when using a cooling base with a fan, there is no throttle whatsoever. I was super worried about the battery as well, but after monitoring it, coconut does not get that much crazy after a play sesión. Before, health would jump down from 95% to 85%, recovering in a couple of cicles. Now it never does it, even after long gaming sessions. Do not worry that much. Thanks for the feedback. When you say " Before, health would jump down from 95% to 85%, recovering in a couple of cicles.", do you mean when you first did the mod, it used to do that and now it no longer does it ? Without the mod, is the battery health also changing ? I mean before the mod, health would jump over and over after a play sesión, I really think it was because of high temps inside the enclosure. As correctly pointed out here, batteries degrade faster on high, and specially, low temps, so now that heat is sent to the backplate, I “feel” battery is behaving way better overall.
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Post by jamesst20 on Aug 31, 2020 17:19:47 GMT
Thanks for the feedback. When you say " Before, health would jump down from 95% to 85%, recovering in a couple of cicles.", do you mean when you first did the mod, it used to do that and now it no longer does it ? Without the mod, is the battery health also changing ? I mean before the mod, health would jump over and over after a play sesión, I really think it was because of high temps inside the enclosure. As correctly pointed out here, batteries degrade faster on high, and specially, low temps, so now that heat is sent to the backplate, I “feel” battery is behaving way better overall. This is good to know! My battery health is already 93% and I only have like 30 cycles count. I use the laptop mostly connected. I might do the mod soon
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Post by goldmaster11 on Sept 6, 2020 22:47:35 GMT
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Post by marf on Sept 8, 2020 22:02:16 GMT
Wow! This looks super promising! Before I try it out, I just want to ask if anyone has experienced any change in MacOS after installing the pads? I'd love to do this for gaming in Windows, but I am worried it could affect MacOS.
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Post by guantingdu on Sept 10, 2020 17:09:26 GMT
I did it yesterday and it worked super well for me, gaming-wise. My GPU frequency can sustain at 1000-1300mhz for at least an hour and a half in Death Stranding in 85-90C. Before the mod, it was 600mhz for the beginning 20 mins and then dropped to 300 after. CPU temperature is better, around 70-80c with a locked base frequency. The same high-performance stats showed in Forza 4 for 3 hours. It feels like a got a brand new laptop!
And just by feeling it with my hand, I don't think the back cover was significantly hotter than before. Maybe it's because the laptop stand I used helped too. For normal tasks in macOS, there's no difference at all, I still use it on my lap.
And a tip for doing the mod, one pack ok thermal pad may not be enough. I only got one pack and there's still some room left can be padded. But still, I got some pretty good outcomes from it. Aside from doing the mod I also cleaned the dust out, never thought it could be that much dust in it so prepare an air blower or a canned air.
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Post by jamesst20 on Sept 16, 2020 2:29:35 GMT
Wow! This looks super promising! Before I try it out, I just want to ask if anyone has experienced any change in MacOS after installing the pads? I'd love to do this for gaming in Windows, but I am worried it could affect MacOS. Don't worry, the only known downside is the bottom plate being a bit hotter because the heat is transferred outside there. It will affect Mac OS of course, but positively. It will earn the same benefits as Windows. Both OS suffers from it. I did it yesterday and it worked super well for me, gaming-wise. My GPU frequency can sustain at 1000-1300mhz for at least an hour and a half in Death Stranding in 85-90C. Before the mod, it was 600mhz for the beginning 20 mins and then dropped to 300 after. CPU temperature is better, around 70-80c with a locked base frequency. The same high-performance stats showed in Forza 4 for 3 hours. It feels like a got a brand new laptop! And just by feeling it with my hand, I don't think the back cover was significantly hotter than before. Maybe it's because the laptop stand I used helped too. For normal tasks in macOS, there's no difference at all, I still use it on my lap. And a tip for doing the mod, one pack ok thermal pad may not be enough. I only got one pack and there's still some room left can be padded. But still, I got some pretty good outcomes from it. Aside from doing the mod I also cleaned the dust out, never thought it could be that much dust in it so prepare an air blower or a canned air. Thank you for the feedback! Which pack did you buy of which brand? I have a rendez-vous at Apple in 2 days to negotiate and talk about this issue. If nothing comes out from it I will do the mod too.
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Post by Mat HD on Sept 16, 2020 11:55:00 GMT
Wow! This looks super promising! Before I try it out, I just want to ask if anyone has experienced any change in MacOS after installing the pads? I'd love to do this for gaming in Windows, but I am worried it could affect MacOS. Don't worry, the only known downside is the bottom plate being a bit hotter because the heat is transferred outside there. It will affect Mac OS of course, but positively. It will earn the same benefits as Windows. Both OS suffers from it. I did it yesterday and it worked super well for me, gaming-wise. My GPU frequency can sustain at 1000-1300mhz for at least an hour and a half in Death Stranding in 85-90C. Before the mod, it was 600mhz for the beginning 20 mins and then dropped to 300 after. CPU temperature is better, around 70-80c with a locked base frequency. The same high-performance stats showed in Forza 4 for 3 hours. It feels like a got a brand new laptop! And just by feeling it with my hand, I don't think the back cover was significantly hotter than before. Maybe it's because the laptop stand I used helped too. For normal tasks in macOS, there's no difference at all, I still use it on my lap. And a tip for doing the mod, one pack ok thermal pad may not be enough. I only got one pack and there's still some room left can be padded. But still, I got some pretty good outcomes from it. Aside from doing the mod I also cleaned the dust out, never thought it could be that much dust in it so prepare an air blower or a canned air. Thank you for the feedback! Which pack did you buy of which brand? I have a rendez-vous at Apple in 2 days to negotiate and talk about this issue. If nothing comes out from it I will do the mod too. For longer term gaming, the only real downside to doing this mod is that it does get very hot to the touch - so wouldnt be suitable for gaming on your lap for extended periods of time.
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Post by 2tlavenue on Sept 16, 2020 15:53:03 GMT
I have a hardshell (the Incase one) on my Mac . With the temps on the bottom getting very high, is there any chance for it to melt or make the mac even hotter and potentially damaged?
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Post by jamesst20 on Sept 17, 2020 20:16:47 GMT
I have a hardshell (the Incase one) on my Mac . With the temps on the bottom getting very high, is there any chance for it to melt or make the mac even hotter and potentially damaged? I believe plastics melt at 170°C so it should be fine. It will be hotter on your lap though.
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