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Post by Valkyrionetz on Jan 27, 2020 20:09:55 GMT
No worries on the late reply, I am even more late with the reply since I was out of town for four days.
I don't know all the ranges of cards from AMD and NVIDIA nor their power or second hand price but I can give you one last advice for this: think about if in the future you'd want to use an application on Mac OS X, say you start doing video editing in Final Cut Pro X or music production in Logic Pro X, or 3D Graphics Design etc. An NVIDIA card will not help you at all here while an AMD card will greatly increase performance and workflow for many if not all of these applications (think working in Final Cut Pro X and being able to work twice as fast due to less application lag due to rendering).
If you are intent on using an external eGPU just for Windows video games for the whole lifespan of your iMac, then NVIDIA is ok. But you never know what new hobbies you might pick up in a year or two and it would be a shame to have such a powerful piece of hardware that's useless for them.
Firstly, hey, don't panic if you don't find something in the UK. You can still order something from Europe and not pay taxes, correct? I live in Eastern Europe, Romania, Bucharest but ordered my Razer Core X from Amazon.de (Germany) and my Radeon VII from Amazon.fr (France). They arrive in even two days if you pay priority shipping, the price depends mostly on weight, so yes the Razer Core X price for regular shipping was about $50 but you DO NOT pay import taxes and can return the items if something is wrong or they don't arrive and you get full refunds, including the shipping you paid. The Amazon customer support is amazing.
You never stated what Mac you have, Windows is actually much more efficient at gaming using the same machine. Regarding older games, AMD just a released a feature for this with it's new drivers called Integer Scaling, you can look that up if you're interested.
Also I'm looking at the prices online of a 1080ti and everywhere I look it's more expensive than the Radeon VII. If you were referring to the card and not the Razer Core X in the previous post when you mentioned $240, be careful, it could be a Chinese knock-off.
The 1080ti is an amazing card but it is also 3 years old. Nvidia has had 3 years to refine it with driver updates and features but at some point it WILL stop supporting it with the newest features, even if not soon. Just something to keep in mind.
Hey, sorry for not replying yesterday. I can get the Razer in the US as I’m there fairly often so no worry, it works out at about £240 inc taxes. I was looking at buying the 1080 second hand in the UK. That is worth knowing about ordering from elsewhere in Europe though, I’d not thought of that. My current Mac is the 2017 27” 3.8ghz i5, RX580, 2TB Fusion & 16GB RAM. I’ve also got a 1TB external Samsung T5 SSD. It doesn’t need to be the highest end tech, just be able to power through the small number of games I play on a PC. That’s why I’d thought about a secondhand 1080 ti as a good balance between power / budget. ps I can’t find any reference in the new AMD software to integer scaling. I remember way back when it used to work in the old software, but for many months it’s been greyed out as ‘not supported’. As I said, I can’t find it as an option in the new software. I’d love to be able to use it!
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Post by henni on Jan 27, 2020 20:17:30 GMT
hello yes I did see that. i'll investigate for the next version but can't promise anything! Okay, thanks! If i can be of any help let me know! It was wonderful to have working drivers for the iMac Pro until the Januar 2020 edition ;-)
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Post by spidey002 on Jan 27, 2020 20:57:53 GMT
I can't get the AMD link to work. There appears to be no option in the 2020 drivers to enable AMD link server as they describe. Perhaps it's because of my graphics card? (R9 M370x). there is no amd link in blue one read the desc. I’m using Red. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Valkyrionetz on Jan 27, 2020 21:38:22 GMT
there is no amd link in blue one read the desc. I’m using Red. 🤷🏻♂️ From what I read in some earlier posts about a month or two ago, AMD Link is not included in any of the 2020 Bootcamp Drivers
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Post by goldmaster11 on Jan 27, 2020 22:41:47 GMT
AMD Link is mentioned in the main menu of the red drivers, but the AMD Link settings that come with it on PC’s don’t get installed on Macs.
All you see is SteamVR when you click “Manage Devices.”
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Post by gamerpro on Jan 28, 2020 4:50:20 GMT
From what I read in some earlier posts about a month or two ago, AMD Link is not included in any of the 2020 Bootcamp Drivers amd link is missing on all 2020 drivers thats what i meant.
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Post by playerunkown on Jan 28, 2020 6:30:47 GMT
Seem to still be getting the most stable & high performance experience from the NOV edition C drivers (iMac Pro / Vega 56) compared to this one.
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Post by gamerpro on Jan 28, 2020 22:37:30 GMT
Seem to still be getting the most stable & high performance experience from the NOV edition C drivers (iMac Pro / Vega 56) compared to this one. Hey mat hd 20.14 is out now.
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Post by cuppino83 on Jan 29, 2020 0:03:51 GMT
Hello everyone, i have a 5k imac with vega 48. I have tried all 3 versions of the latest dirver, but I always get the same error. During the installation the screen freezes with all the colored lines and I am forced to restart. And from that moment I am co-owned to format because the computer then does not boot even in safe mode. I have formatted dozens of times, but there is no way to make the latest drivers work. I went back to the December ones (red version 1) which work very well.
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Post by henni on Jan 29, 2020 9:16:25 GMT
Hello everyone, i have a 5k imac with vega 48. I have tried all 3 versions of the latest dirver, but I always get the same error. During the installation the screen freezes with all the colored lines and I am forced to restart. And from that moment I am co-owned to format because the computer then does not boot even in safe mode. I have formatted dozens of times, but there is no way to make the latest drivers work. I went back to the December ones (red version 1) which work very well. Same with iMac Pro Vega 56. Seems to be a common problem with Vegas maybe? Hopefully Matt finds a solution for the February drivers.
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Post by hightower on Jan 29, 2020 15:16:13 GMT
No worries on the late reply, I am even more late with the reply since I was out of town for four days.
I don't know all the ranges of cards from AMD and NVIDIA nor their power or second hand price but I can give you one last advice for this: think about if in the future you'd want to use an application on Mac OS X, say you start doing video editing in Final Cut Pro X or music production in Logic Pro X, or 3D Graphics Design etc. An NVIDIA card will not help you at all here while an AMD card will greatly increase performance and workflow for many if not all of these applications (think working in Final Cut Pro X and being able to work twice as fast due to less application lag due to rendering).
If you are intent on using an external eGPU just for Windows video games for the whole lifespan of your iMac, then NVIDIA is ok. But you never know what new hobbies you might pick up in a year or two and it would be a shame to have such a powerful piece of hardware that's useless for them.
Hey, sorry for not replying yesterday. I can get the Razer in the US as I’m there fairly often so no worry, it works out at about £240 inc taxes. I was looking at buying the 1080 second hand in the UK. That is worth knowing about ordering from elsewhere in Europe though, I’d not thought of that. My current Mac is the 2017 27” 3.8ghz i5, RX580, 2TB Fusion & 16GB RAM. I’ve also got a 1TB external Samsung T5 SSD. It doesn’t need to be the highest end tech, just be able to power through the small number of games I play on a PC. That’s why I’d thought about a secondhand 1080 ti as a good balance between power / budget. ps I can’t find any reference in the new AMD software to integer scaling. I remember way back when it used to work in the old software, but for many months it’s been greyed out as ‘not supported’. As I said, I can’t find it as an option in the new software. I’d love to be able to use it! Thanks again. I took at the link you gave re integer scaling but those options are not there in the Radeon software with the latest drivers. Either that, or my Mac doesn’t support it, which would be a surprise.
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Post by Valkyrionetz on Jan 29, 2020 17:49:06 GMT
The internal AMD iMac card is probably not a supported card because internal AMD Mac cards are all cards designed specifically for Macs, separate from their normal lineup of buy of the shelf or desktop PC cards. That's why Matt HD is pretty much a hero for designing drivers for these separate Mac cards. For me the options appear with the latest Red Drivers but for the external card. No worries on the late reply, I am even more late with the reply since I was out of town for four days.
I don't know all the ranges of cards from AMD and NVIDIA nor their power or second hand price but I can give you one last advice for this: think about if in the future you'd want to use an application on Mac OS X, say you start doing video editing in Final Cut Pro X or music production in Logic Pro X, or 3D Graphics Design etc. An NVIDIA card will not help you at all here while an AMD card will greatly increase performance and workflow for many if not all of these applications (think working in Final Cut Pro X and being able to work twice as fast due to less application lag due to rendering).
If you are intent on using an external eGPU just for Windows video games for the whole lifespan of your iMac, then NVIDIA is ok. But you never know what new hobbies you might pick up in a year or two and it would be a shame to have such a powerful piece of hardware that's useless for them.
Thanks again. I took at the link you gave re integer scaling but those options are not there in the Radeon software with the latest drivers. Either that, or my Mac doesn’t support it, which would be a surprise.
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Post by goldmaster11 on Jan 30, 2020 2:07:04 GMT
Apple has never really prioritized gaming on Macs. Apple Store employees usually don't offer much support for Boot Camp outside of the support pages in my experience. It would be no surprise if the Radeon Pro series and Mac displays never officially supported some gaming features, although Radeon Image Sharpening can work with the Radeon Pro graphics in the red drivers. From 2006, Boot Camp has never had large amounts of resources dedicated to it from the Apple team. It took a week for the 16-inch MacBook Pro to get Windows support software for Boot Camp, and even that had scaling and compatibility issues with several games.
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Post by Valkyrionetz on Jan 30, 2020 12:26:24 GMT
Apple has never really prioritized gaming on Macs. Apple Store employees usually don't offer much support for Boot Camp outside of the support pages in my experience. It would be no surprise if the Radeon Pro series and Mac displays never officially supported some gaming features, although Radeon Image Sharpening can work with the Radeon Pro graphics in the red drivers. From 2006, Boot Camp has never had large amounts of resources dedicated to it from the Apple team. It took a week for the 16-inch MacBook Pro to get Windows support software for Boot Camp, and even that had scaling and compatibility issues with several games. I agree, a lot of their Windows software is really out of date, like the Airport router software for example which hasn't been updated in years on Windows.
But they do have some interest in somewhat supporting Windows and JUST Windows officially. I don't understand why the Bootcamp setup on Mac OS X forces you have a Windows ISO ready and doesn't let you install a version of Linux if that's what you wanted instead of Windows. You can still do that but you have to go in a roundabout way about it.
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Post by gamerpro on Jan 31, 2020 21:05:07 GMT
Apple has never really prioritized gaming on Macs. Apple Store employees usually don't offer much support for Boot Camp outside of the support pages in my experience. It would be no surprise if the Radeon Pro series and Mac displays never officially supported some gaming features, although Radeon Image Sharpening can work with the Radeon Pro graphics in the red drivers. From 2006, Boot Camp has never had large amounts of resources dedicated to it from the Apple team. It took a week for the 16-inch MacBook Pro to get Windows support software for Boot Camp, and even that had scaling and compatibility issues with several games. I agree, a lot of their Windows software is really out of date, like the Airport router software for example which hasn't been updated in years on Windows.
But they do have some interest in somewhat supporting Windows and JUST Windows officially. I don't understand why the Bootcamp setup on Mac OS X forces you have a Windows ISO ready and doesn't let you install a version of Linux if that's what you wanted instead of Windows. You can still do that but you have to go in a roundabout way about it.
yea it just does not feel as fast as my real windows 10 pc with almost same specs no matter what i do smh apple.
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