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Post by mikethebigo on Aug 29, 2020 22:23:53 GMT
Ah man, I’ve been keeping a close eye here waiting for this update ever since April drivers kept crashing my 5500M 16” MBP. Bummed the problem persists in the August release. I hope it can be looked into and sorted out quickly!
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 22:24:08 GMT
Whelp, looks like there is no change to the throttling problem. Still after 20 or so minutes of 1920x1200 maxed out gaming, FPS starts to dip and performance melts into the shitter. So sad and disappointed. This is going back to apple.
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 22:28:10 GMT
Ah man, I’ve been keeping a close eye here waiting for this update ever since April drivers kept crashing my 5500M 16” MBP. Bummed the problem persists in the August release. I hope it can be looked into and sorted out quickly! It doesnt. I have that same machine. Some people just dont understand how to install these drivers correctly. There is nothing wrong with them and the windows 2004 edition. Unless Im the smartest person in the world here. You need to make sure you reboot into safe mode and do the DDU from there. Do it three times without it closing itself or rebooting. Then boot back into windows and do a clean install with the option checked to factory reset the drivers. It should lay down the driver then reboot and finish installing. Then reboot again and you have it. Aside from that, there are no issues with the driver and windows aside from the throttling thats there with any of them. We forget that most people are not computer people and have no idea how to boot into W10 recovery/safe mode or how to install windows from scratch once you mess up the installation with all the BS internet snake oil tweaks.
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Post by howy on Aug 29, 2020 22:35:12 GMT
Thanks Mat, Blue Edition seems to work. I will report any further issues, but in any case thanks for your work. A donation is incoming. So blue edition seemed to work fine, but then launching Flight Simulator 2020 made the fans go crazy and ultimately Flight Simulator kept crashing.
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Post by vaultboy on Aug 29, 2020 22:36:38 GMT
Having tested with my 5300m, not encountering the blank screen problem. Thanks so much for your help, Mat! BTW, is there any way that I could enable the power tweaking tool such as Wattman? It'll be awsome if this problem can be fixed in 16" mbp.
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 22:39:27 GMT
Having tested with my 5300m, not encountering the blank screen problem. Thanks so much for your help, Mat! BTW, is there any way that I could enable the power tweaking tool such as Wattman? It'll be awsome if this problem can be fixed in 16" mbp. For some reason, MAT never responds to any comments that pertain to the 16" MBP CPU/GPU throttling issue. Not sure why. Maybe he will break that trend here with my comment seeing as how Im specifically calling him out about it. MAT, whats the deal man? Do you have an opinion on this? There are tons of threads on your forum about this...
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Post by mikethebigo on Aug 29, 2020 22:42:37 GMT
Ah man, I’ve been keeping a close eye here waiting for this update ever since April drivers kept crashing my 5500M 16” MBP. Bummed the problem persists in the August release. I hope it can be looked into and sorted out quickly! It doesnt. I have that same machine. Some people just dont understand how to install these drivers correctly. There is nothing wrong with them and the windows 2004 edition. Unless Im the smartest person in the world here. You need to make sure you reboot into safe mode and do the DDU from there. Do it three times without it closing itself or rebooting. Then boot back into windows and do a clean install with the option checked to factory reset the drivers. It should lay down the driver then reboot and finish installing. Then reboot again and you have it. Aside from that, there are no issues with the driver and windows aside from the throttling thats there with any of them. We forget that most people are not computer people and have no idea how to boot into W10 recovery/safe mode or how to install windows from scratch once you mess up the installation with all the BS internet snake oil tweaks. Well, you’re wrong. Because I and many others who posted previously have followed the exact installation technique and absolutely DO still have the issue.
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 22:44:54 GMT
It doesnt. I have that same machine. Some people just dont understand how to install these drivers correctly. There is nothing wrong with them and the windows 2004 edition. Unless Im the smartest person in the world here. You need to make sure you reboot into safe mode and do the DDU from there. Do it three times without it closing itself or rebooting. Then boot back into windows and do a clean install with the option checked to factory reset the drivers. It should lay down the driver then reboot and finish installing. Then reboot again and you have it. Aside from that, there are no issues with the driver and windows aside from the throttling thats there with any of them. We forget that most people are not computer people and have no idea how to boot into W10 recovery/safe mode or how to install windows from scratch once you mess up the installation with all the BS internet snake oil tweaks. Well, you’re wrong. Because I and many others who posted previously have followed the exact installation technique and absolutely DO still have the issue. If Im wrong, then why dont I have the issue>>?? hhmmmm? 
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Post by mikethebigo on Aug 29, 2020 22:49:54 GMT
Well, you’re wrong. Because I and many others who posted previously have followed the exact installation technique and absolutely DO still have the issue. If Im wrong, then why dont I have the issue>>?? hhmmmm?  Perhaps some machines are different in some way? Macs are not all homogenous. Most parts, like motherboard, RAM, etc are sourced from multiple vendors. The same thing happened with the April drivers, fine on some, crash on others. There are also different external monitors, resolution settings, games, etc. It is incredibly closed minded to think that just because your machine doesn’t have a problem, no one’s machine does.
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Post by Mat HD on Aug 29, 2020 22:51:26 GMT
Having tested with my 5300m, not encountering the blank screen problem. Thanks so much for your help, Mat! BTW, is there any way that I could enable the power tweaking tool such as Wattman? It'll be awsome if this problem can be fixed in 16" mbp. For some reason, MAT never responds to any comments that pertain to the 16" MBP CPU/GPU throttling issue. Not sure why. Maybe he will break that trend here with my comment seeing as how Im specifically calling him out about it. MAT, whats the deal man? Do you have an opinion on this? There are tons of threads on your forum about this... There are various "solutions" to thermal throttling circulating on youtube/the forums etc. I cannot comment as I don't own the laptop in question. My own imac suffers from thermal throttling if I don't use macsfancontrol to aggressively ramp up the fans way sooner than in apples own firmware. This video seems legit though:
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 22:55:19 GMT
If Im wrong, then why dont I have the issue>>?? hhmmmm?  Perhaps some machines are different in some way? Macs are not all homogenous. Most parts, like motherboard, RAM, etc are sourced from multiple vendors. The same thing happened with the April drivers, fine on some, crash on others. It is incredibly closed minded to think that just because your machine doesn’t have a problem, no one’s machine does. Im not closed minded. On the flip side I've been in IT for 20 years and currently Im a senior network engineer for a global company. Im wired to think the opposite of closed minded when it comes to IT related problems. 20 times a day some idiot calls claiming the whole network is down, meanwhile its just his PC, and its just a certain site at a certain time and he hasnt tried it in a week. Thats the reality. The "this driver is broke" guy most likely installed it incorrectly, or has some corrupt version of windows thats been tweaked from here to hell with everything he could find from every site claiming to have "the fix" to make the mbp a decent gaming machine. Not to mention all the freeware software people are using to manipulate all the different hardware profiles the machine is trying to maintain. There are a thousand reasons why its not working for you, and none of them are this driver. Because if it works for one person, then its working... I have a 2019 16" i9 MBP with the 5500m 4gb. I have a fairly clean w10 Pro 2004 installation that only has a few games loaded. I followed what I said about installing the driver to the T, as I've done with the older versions and still have no issues with crashing games or the machine itself. So you tell me what IM doing wrong since I seem to be in the minority of people its working for...
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 23:02:56 GMT
For some reason, MAT never responds to any comments that pertain to the 16" MBP CPU/GPU throttling issue. Not sure why. Maybe he will break that trend here with my comment seeing as how Im specifically calling him out about it. MAT, whats the deal man? Do you have an opinion on this? There are tons of threads on your forum about this... There are various "solutions" to thermal throttling circulating on youtube/the forums etc. I cannot comment as I don't own the laptop in question. My own imac suffers from thermal throttling if I don't use macsfancontrol to aggressively ramp up the fans way sooner than in apples own firmware. This video seems legit though: Mat. I've watched all those videos and tried all those tweaks. I really wanted this to be my all around gaming machine, but its just flawed to the core. Im sitting here watching my AB overlay showing the GPU only getting 20w and its sitting at 500mhz in GTAV. WHY is it doing that? The temp is 74c and its 99% maxed out utilization. This is a 55w GPU and should be pegged at 50+ watts and 1200mhz or more when its within its temp range. Yet for some reason its not. This is the problem and I just dont know how to fix it. Man I wish I could talk to an apple engineer about this.
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Post by mikethebigo on Aug 29, 2020 23:03:44 GMT
Perhaps some machines are different in some way? Macs are not all homogenous. Most parts, like motherboard, RAM, etc are sourced from multiple vendors. The same thing happened with the April drivers, fine on some, crash on others. It is incredibly closed minded to think that just because your machine doesn’t have a problem, no one’s machine does. Im not closed minded. On the flip side I've been in IT for 20 years and currently Im a senior network engineer for a global company. Im wired to think the opposite of closed minded when it comes to IT related problems. 20 times a day some idiot calls claiming the whole network is down, meanwhile its just his PC, and its just a certain site at a certain time and he hasnt tried it in a week. Thats the reality. The "this driver is broke" guy most likely installed it incorrectly, or has some corrupt version of windows thats been tweaked from here to hell with everything he could find from every site claiming to have "the fix" to make the mbp a decent gaming machine. Not to mention all the freeware software people are using to manipulate all the different hardware profiles the machine is trying to maintain. There are a thousand reasons why its not working for you, and none of them are this driver. Because if it works for one person, then its working... I have a 2019 16" i9 MBP with the 5500m 4gb. I have a fairly clean w10 Pro 2004 installation that only has a few games loaded. I followed what I said about installing the driver to the T, as I've done with the older versions and still have no issues with crashing games or the machine itself. So you tell me what IM doing wrong since I seem to be in the minority of people its working for... Have you considered the general IT call you get is not from the same type of person that browses a custom GPU firmware site? I’m not going to keep arguing with your ego. I have, multiple times, installed correctly. January worked. April and August have not. Page 1 of this thread is full of people who you say can’t figure out safe mode who are clearly doing DDU on the fly driver swaps. For whatever reason, it isn’t working on some machines. I would not trust anyone in technical support who genuinely believed that a driver working on one particular machine and configuration means it MUST work on all.
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Post by Mat HD on Aug 29, 2020 23:05:02 GMT
There are various "solutions" to thermal throttling circulating on youtube/the forums etc. I cannot comment as I don't own the laptop in question. My own imac suffers from thermal throttling if I don't use macsfancontrol to aggressively ramp up the fans way sooner than in apples own firmware. This video seems legit though: Mat. I've watched all those videos and tried all those tweaks. I really wanted this to be my all around gaming machine, but its just flawed to the core. Im sitting here watching my AB overlay showing the GPU only getting 20w and its sitting at 500mhz in GTAV. WHY is it doing that? The temp is 74c and its 99% maxed out utilization. This is a 55w GPU and should be pegged at 50+ watts and 1200mhz or more when its within its temp range. Yet for some reason its not. This is the problem and I just dont know how to fix it. Man I wish I could talk to an apple engineer about this. You know you can email Craig federighi your frustrations, right? His apple email is in the public domain. It doesn't get higher than him as far as apple engineers go.
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Post by zxmustang on Aug 29, 2020 23:10:46 GMT
Im not closed minded. On the flip side I've been in IT for 20 years and currently Im a senior network engineer for a global company. Im wired to think the opposite of closed minded when it comes to IT related problems. 20 times a day some idiot calls claiming the whole network is down, meanwhile its just his PC, and its just a certain site at a certain time and he hasnt tried it in a week. Thats the reality. The "this driver is broke" guy most likely installed it incorrectly, or has some corrupt version of windows thats been tweaked from here to hell with everything he could find from every site claiming to have "the fix" to make the mbp a decent gaming machine. Not to mention all the freeware software people are using to manipulate all the different hardware profiles the machine is trying to maintain. There are a thousand reasons why its not working for you, and none of them are this driver. Because if it works for one person, then its working... I have a 2019 16" i9 MBP with the 5500m 4gb. I have a fairly clean w10 Pro 2004 installation that only has a few games loaded. I followed what I said about installing the driver to the T, as I've done with the older versions and still have no issues with crashing games or the machine itself. So you tell me what IM doing wrong since I seem to be in the minority of people its working for... Have you considered the general IT call you get is not from the same type of person that browses a custom GPU firmware site? I’m not going to keep arguing with your ego. I have, multiple times, installed correctly. January worked. April and August have not. Page 1 of this thread is full of people who you say can’t figure out safe mode who are clearly doing DDU on the fly driver swaps. For whatever reason, it isn’t working on some machines. I would not trust anyone in technical support who genuinely believed that a driver working on one particular machine and configuration means it MUST work on all. You are missing the point. If its broke for you, then you are doing something wrong. Not me. Its working on my W10 pro 2004. So my ego and my technical skills seem to be superior since its working for me. I bet you $1000 I could scratch load W10 pro on your machine and have the August drivers working flawlessly within 20 minutes. Have you tried that?? Because thats what I would do and have done. When dealing with custom software like this, always be ready to reload at a moments notice. I could help you solve your issues if you want...
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