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Post by jamieckorea on Aug 31, 2018 10:03:41 GMT
Shoot, I said I was available everyday, but I ain't this Sunday. I'm going to a LAN Party at my friend's place.
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Post by jebbuhdiah on Sept 1, 2018 6:29:37 GMT
Sunday: No problem, will catch you next time.
Capping the framerate (used MSI Afterburner latest, with RivaTuner) (at 59) seems to make Star Wars Battlefront II crash for me every time, whether or not vsync is enabled in the game. The scenario will be: start rivatuner (e.g. at Windows startup) and then try to launch the game.
At first though, for a while I could see the framerate in-game display working when in the game type picker (various player teams); I think the game was already started and then I turned on RivaTuner.
I have "Frame Pacing" turned on in the AMD Settings, along with Vertical Refresh. There's no place I see in AMD Settings to cap framerate to a specific number.
I keep vsync turned on in the game, as well as HDR.
With Direct X 12 enabled, I get good 4k play but the game crashes too frequently.
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Post by Mat HD on Sept 1, 2018 19:37:56 GMT
Sunday: No problem, will catch you next time. Capping the framerate (used MSI Afterburner latest, with RivaTuner) (at 59) seems to make Star Wars Battlefront II crash for me every time, whether or not vsync is enabled in the game. The scenario will be: start rivatuner (e.g. at Windows startup) and then try to launch the game. At first though, for a while I could see the framerate in-game display working when in the game type picker (various player teams); I think the game was already started and then I turned on RivaTuner. I have "Frame Pacing" turned on in the AMD Settings, along with Vertical Refresh. There's no place I see in AMD Settings to cap framerate to a specific number. I keep vsync turned on in the game, as well as HDR. With Direct X 12 enabled, I get good 4k play but the game crashes too frequently. VSync is very heavy on GPU.. do you really really want it on? Try with it turned off you should see a big difference. |
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Post by jebbuhdiah on Sept 1, 2018 20:58:28 GMT
Thanks - should I also turn off "Frame Pacing" in the AMD Settings?
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Post by jebbuhdiah on Sept 1, 2018 21:16:38 GMT
I tried turning off vsync, and the result was super-laggy (this is at 4k). So then I turned on Direct X 12, and all looked good. However, I got a hard crash after playing for about three minutes (game play was responsive up until the crash). The crash took down my whole machine from the software (did not need to hold down the physical power button), but rebooted fine. To get back to good gameplay, I turned off Direct X 12 Support, turned resolution down to 2560 (x1440), and turned Vsync back on. EA does note that they have an upcoming fix for Direct X 12 , and recommends turning it off if needed: help.ea.com/en/help/star-wars/star-wars-battlefront-ii/troubleshoot-star-wars-battlefront-ii/I tried Battlefield I (also from EA) and it works pretty well on 4k, but is a bit laggy: I have vsyc on, hdr on, no option for Direct X 12. It didn't crash or anything but is a little "slurred" - would be cool to clean that up. Please keep the suggestions and teachings coming - I am very glad to keep on trying different things and learning more! |
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Post by Mat HD on Sept 1, 2018 22:49:29 GMT
I tried turning off vsync, and the result was super-laggy (this is at 4k). So then I turned on Direct X 12, and all looked good. However, I got a hard crash after playing for about three minutes (game play was responsive up until the crash). The crash took down my whole machine from the software (did not need to hold down the physical power button), but rebooted fine. To get back to good gameplay, I turned off Direct X 12 Support, turned resolution down to 2560 (x1440), and turned Vsync back on. EA does note that they have an upcoming fix for Direct X 12 , and recommends turning it off if needed: help.ea.com/en/help/star-wars/star-wars-battlefront-ii/troubleshoot-star-wars-battlefront-ii/I tried Battlefield I (also from EA) and it works pretty well on 4k, but is a bit laggy: I have vsyc on, hdr on, no option for Direct X 12. It didn't crash or anything but is a little "slurred" - would be cool to clean that up. Please keep the suggestions and teachings coming - I am very glad to keep on trying different things and learning more! I should point out that it's worth trying turning off VSYNC for Battlefield 1 and see if that works any better for you (I know it was 'laggy' for you in Battlefront II but that might be because the FPS is all over the place- try setting an FPS limit of 40 FPS there if u can and see if the stuttering goes away). Thing about VSYNC is that it also introduces notable input lag to the gameplay, which gets worse the bigger the resolution being displayed. Though setting an FPS of 59/60 does help remove this input lag. |
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Post by jebbuhdiah on Sept 2, 2018 19:36:11 GMT
Thanks so much - here is my latest update:
EA Battlefield 1: Works pretty well at 4k with Direct X 12 and Vsync turned on (and, if it matters with vsync turned on (idk), with framerate limiting at 60 fps). I tried limiting the framerate and the monitor-supported setting and at 60 fps setting, and also with the external RivaTuner at 59, 30, and 60 fps settings, but that limiting did not seem to help.
EA Star Wars Battlefront: Working okay at 4k with Vsync on (there is no Direct X option). With Vsync off, there is a lot of what looks like tearing. With it on, it is very slightly sluggish now and then.
EA Star Wars Battlefront II: Without Direct X 12, which crashes the game after not too long (EA has announced a Direct X 12 fix, if that will solve that issue), I can't currently do 4k. Instead I stay at 2560x1440 . I tried external framerate limiting on this one (vsync off, external framerate with RivaTuner) but that actually crashed the game.
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Post by Mat HD on Sept 2, 2018 19:44:20 GMT
Thanks so much - here is my latest update: EA Battlefield 1: Works pretty well at 4k with Direct X 12 and Vsync turned on (and, if it matters with vsync turned on (idk), with framerate limiting at 60 fps). I tried limiting the framerate and the monitor-supported setting and at 60 fps setting, and also with the external RivaTuner at 59, 30, and 60 fps settings, but that limiting did not seem to help. EA Star Wars Battlefront: Working okay at 4k with Vsync on (there is no Direct X option). With Vsync off, there is a lot of what looks like tearing. With it on, it is very slightly sluggish now and then. EA Star Wars Battlefront II: Without Direct X 12, which crashes the game after not too long (EA has announced a Direct X 12 fix, if that will solve that issue), I can't currently do 4k. Instead I stay at 2560x1440 . I tried external framerate limiting on this one (vsync off, external framerate with RivaTuner) but that actually crashed the game. It's amazing that this ageing graphics card can handle the games in 4k. |
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Post by jamieckorea on Sept 3, 2018 0:18:49 GMT
Why 4K though?
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Post by jamieckorea on Sept 3, 2018 0:19:40 GMT
I would recommend 1080p or even better, 1680x1050.
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Post by jebbuhdiah on Sept 3, 2018 4:04:57 GMT
In the lower resolutions, the game scenes look much grainier and a little cartoonish, and a whole lot of detail is missing. I did run them in 1080p previously, for some years, since I didn't have a 4k screen.
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Post by Mat HD on Sept 3, 2018 4:19:48 GMT
1440p is probably the sweet spot between performance & graphics quality on larger/external displays. 1050p for laptops.
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Post by jamieckorea on Sept 4, 2018 0:39:20 GMT
I prefer better FPS than graphics, so I guess we have different standards. Still I would recommend you to find the "sweetspot" just like what Mat said. Try to get at least 60 fps, though. It is really a game changer.
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Post by jebbuhdiah on Sept 9, 2018 3:11:59 GMT
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